MY DRAMA AND THE VERTICAL TAKEOVER
Download MP3What if the future of entertainment fits in your pocket and a six-year-old startup from Ukraine is already building it?
Welcome to the Media Odyssey Podcast, recorded live at StreamTV Europe, featuring Bogdan Nesvit, founder of HOLYWATER TECH and the microdrama platform My Drama. What started six years ago as an interactive fiction app has quietly evolved into one of the most data-sophisticated entertainment companies operating today. One that is now partnering with Fox Entertainment and eyeing a full theatrical release.
If you've ever wondered how a media startup goes from zero to 7 million monthly active users without a single piece of traditional distribution, Bogdan doesn't just tell you what HOLYWATER TECH built, he gives raw data and operational transparency you almost never get from a founder.
Beyond content strategy, Bogdan pulls back the curtain on the business model to detail the full transition from microtransactions to subscription, how the platform runs over 1,000 A/B tests per year, and why he believes proprietary user data (not product or AI) will be the defining competitive advantage of the AI era. He also touches on the Fox partnership, the road to ad monetization, and his personal philosophy around meditation, focus, and leadership.
Key Takeaways:
1. Scale is Accelerating Fast
My Drama currently has close to 300 titles on the platform, targeting 500 by the end of 2026 and 1,000 by the end of 2027. Each title contains around 90 one-minute episodes, effectively repackaging a full 90–120 minute film into bite-sized vertical content.
2. The Subscription Model Dominates
The platform fully shifted away from microtransactions with more than 90% of customers subscribing. Subscription users retain at 2x the rate of in-app purchase users and consume 3x more content. Users on an ad-supported tier consume an average of 1.5 hours of content per day, a striking engagement metric.
3. AI Slashes Production Costs and Timelines
Live-action microdrama costs $120K–$250K per title and takes roughly four months to produce. Netflix takes 100 weeks. AI-generated content on the MyMuse platform costs only a few thousand dollars and can be produced and tested in two weeks. Scripts, however, remain 100% human-written.
4. Paid and Organic Impressions Are Needed Together
My Drama generates two billion monthly impressions across Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube using a cliffhanger-driven content preview strategy for a 70/30 paid-to-organic acquisition split. At any given month, the team runs 30,000 unique video ad creatives across Facebook, Snapchat, and TikTok. Despite heavy paid spend, the company is currently profitable and growing more than 2x year-over-year.
5. It’s a Growing Market
The global microdrama market is $11–12B today, projected to reach $25B by 2030. China dominates the current market (the format originated there around 6 years ago). Outside China, the market is much smaller today but is projected to hit ~$10B, mostly driven by the US, by 2030. Holywater is betting that expanding beyond the current five core content tropes into genres like thriller, fantasy, and detective stories is essential to moving microdrama from niche to mainstream.
Thank you to Bogdan Nesvit for joining the pod!
Bogdan Nesvit - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bogdannesvit/
HOLYWATER TECH - https://www.linkedin.com/company/holywatertech/
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Connect with us on Linkedin:
Evan Shapiro - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eshap-media-cartographer/
Marion Ranchet - https://www.linkedin.com/in/marionranchet/
The Media Odyssey Podcast - https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-media-odyssey-podcast
- (00:00) - Live Podcast Kickoff
- (00:47) - Meet the Micro Drama Guest
- (01:47) - HOLYWATER TECH Origin Story
- (02:43) - From Books to Vertical Video
- (04:04) - My Drama Scale and Audience
- (05:19) - Micro Episodes and Library Growth
- (06:23) - Monetization Evolution
- (08:56) - Subscription Data and Retention
- (10:10) - Customer Acquisition Playbook
- (13:24) - Organic Social Cliffhangers
- (15:26) - Data Moat and AB Testing
- (16:31) - Market Size and New Genres
- (18:58) - AI Production and Costs
- (26:45) - Fox Partnership and Mindfulness Finale
Creators and Guests
Host
Evan Shapiro
Based in the US, Evan Shapiro is the Media Industry’s official Cartographer, known for his well-researched and provocative analysis of the entertainment ecosystem in his must read treatises on Media’s latest trends and trajectories.
Host
Marion Ranchet
Marion Ranchet, French expat based in Amsterdam, has become the industry’s go-to expert in all things streaming, building a following for turning even the most complex problems into easily digestible and actionable insights.
